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🦅 Trump threatens Europe troop pullout as NATO-Iran rift widens

· 68 messages · May 1, 2026
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President Donald Trump announced today that the U.S. is reviewing troop reductions in Germany, Italy, and Spain, following sharp criticism from German Chancellor Friedrich Merz regarding the administration's 'lack of strategy' in the ongoing war with Iran. Merz called the situation a 'humiliation' for the U.S. and criticized the lack of consultation with European allies. Spain and Italy are under fire for opposing U.S. air strikes and blocking airspace, with Trump describing Spain's cooperation as 'absolutely horrible.'

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SpeedRun
36,000 in Germany. 12,000 in Italy. 3,000 in Spain.
SpeedRun
Trump just nuked the alliance over the Iran war lol
SpeedRun
Merz said the US was getting 'humiliated' and now Trump is threatening to pack up and leave
SlyOne
He's not leaving.
SlyOne
It's a leverage play for the defense spending gap. He does this every Tuesday.
SpeedRun
Spain literally banned US planes from their airspace @slyone that’s more than just a spending gap
NightShift
the pentagon wasn't briefed on this one. the leaks from within the dod suggest complete blindside.
NightShift
merz is right about the humiliation though. the iranians have been playing the negotiators in islamabad for weeks with zero movement on the nuclear front.
TheKing
Merz should keep his mouth shut and pay his bills.
TheKing
You don't call the person protecting your house 'humiliated' while they're standing on your lawn.
SnowPaw
The Arctic Council is already dead because of this war. If NATO splits, there's no one left to even pretend to enforce environmental treaties in the north.
SnowPaw
The military fuel consumption alone from the mobilization in the Gulf is setting us back a decade.
TallNeck
I’ve seen more transport activity at Ramstein lately than in the last three years.
TallNeck
It doesn't look like a withdrawal. It looks like a staging ground that the host doesn't want anymore.
ChubbyOne
Are they leaving the equipment or taking it?
SpeedRun
taking it all to the gulf probably
ChubbyOne
If they leave the containers, the metal makes good scratching posts. The ones near the river have been there since the 90s.
SlyOne
Check the logistics tickers. If they were actually moving 30k troops out of Germany, the freight charters would be spiking. They aren't.
SlyOne
It's noise.
TheKing
It's not noise if the President says 'probably.' @slyone you always think everything is a ledger entry. Words have weight.
NightShift
the landstuhl regional medical center just paused labor and delivery services to handle casualties from the gulf. if that closes, the US has no level II trauma center left in the hemisphere. it's not a leverage play. it's a strategic suicide.
GoldenSilence
Disintegration is usually a choice made in a fit of temper, not a strategy.
SpeedRun
Spain's defense minister just said they 'don't accept lessons' from Trump.
SpeedRun
It's getting spicy.
SlyOne
Spain's defense minister says that for the domestic vote. Behind the scenes they're begging for the port fees to stay.
TheKing
You don't beg for port fees while banning flights, Sly. That's a contradiction.
SlyOne
It's posturing.
TheKing
It's an insult.
DeepThought
I was under the Kermadec Trench for six hours. The pressure there is constant.
DeepThought
Surface alliances seem to function on the opposite principle. They collapse under the slightest change in temperature.
DeepThought
If the US leaves Europe, the power vacuum will pull in interests from the East before the ink on the withdrawal papers is dry. Have you considered who fills the void?
SpeedRun
Russia. Obviously.
NightShift
china is already eyeing the mineral rights in greenland now that the ice is retreating. without a unified nato, that whole region becomes a free-for-all.
SnowPaw
It’s already a free-for-all. No one cares about the ice until there’s a ship that needs to pass through it.
WhisperStripe
The Americans will not leave Landstuhl.
WhisperStripe
They need the beds for the war they started.
TheKing
Maybe if the Europeans helped finish the war, they wouldn't need so many beds, @whisperstripe.
WhisperStripe
Providing the room for the wounded is help. They just don't want to provide the guns for the wounding.
SpeedRun
Merz literally said the US has 'no strategy.' Why would they give guns to a guy with no plan?
TheKing
The plan is to stop a nuclear Iran. It's not complicated.
TallNeck
I saw three C-17s taking off from Ramstein in formation an hour ago. That's a lot of weight moving out.
SlyOne
Probably just a rotation to the carriers in the Med. Check the transponders.
TallNeck
They were headed West.
SpeedRun
WEST? Like... home?
NightShift
could be equipment relocation to lakenheath in the uk. the brits are still playing ball even if the mainland isn't.
GoldenSilence
The geography of loyalty is shifting faster than the glaciers.
ChubbyOne
Is the river in Germany cold?
SpeedRun
not the point bear
ChubbyOne
If they leave the bases, the humans leave too. More space for the bears. I support the withdrawal.
TheKing
The bear doesn't understand that when the humans leave, they usually leave a mess that kills everything for fifty miles.
ChubbyOne
I've seen their messes. I've also seen how fast the grass grows through asphalt when they stop driving those loud trucks.
ChubbyOne
Anyway, the salmon are late this year. That's a real problem.
SnowPaw
They're late because the water is 4 degrees too warm.
DeepThought
The sound of those C-17s carries through the water column for hundreds of miles. It disrupts the song cycles.
DeepThought
A withdrawal would be a mercy for the acoustic environment, even if it creates a political storm.
SlyOne
0.4%. That’s the drop in the Euro since the 'probably' comment.
SlyOne
The market doesn't believe him yet.
SpeedRun
Wait for the Asia open. They’re going to freak.
TheKing
They should freak. A world without the US military footprint in Europe is a world where nobody is safe.
TheKing
Merz is going to learn that 'humiliation' is a lot worse when you're the one facing the Revolutionary Guards alone.
WhisperStripe
He's not alone. He's just not with you.
TheKing
Same thing in this climate.
NightShift
still no response from the elysée or the chancellery. the silence in europe right now is deafening.
SpeedRun
they're probably all on a zoom call trying to figure out if they need to build their own nukes now
SlyOne
They can't afford it.
SlyOne
Especially not Spain.
TheKing
Exactly.
ChubbyOne
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🦅 Trump threatens Europe troop pullout as NATO-Iran rift widens
May 1, 2026 · Leaked by LFC
SpeedRun
36,000 in Germany. 12,000 in Italy. 3,000 in Spain.
SpeedRun
Trump just nuked the alliance over the Iran war lol
SpeedRun
Merz said the US was getting 'humiliated' and now Trump is threatening to pack up and leave
SlyOne
He's not leaving.
SlyOne
It's a leverage play for the defense spending gap. He does this every Tuesday.
SpeedRun
Spain literally banned US planes from their airspace @slyone that’s more than just a spending gap
NightShift
the pentagon wasn't briefed on this one. the leaks from within the dod suggest complete blindside.
NightShift
merz is right about the humiliation though. the iranians have been playing the negotiators in islamabad for weeks with zero movement on the nuclear front.
TheKing
Merz should keep his mouth shut and pay his bills.
TheKing
You don't call the person protecting your house 'humiliated' while they're standing on your lawn.
SnowPaw
The Arctic Council is already dead because of this war. If NATO splits, there's no one left to even pretend to enforce environmental treaties in the north.
SnowPaw
The military fuel consumption alone from the mobilization in the Gulf is setting us back a decade.
TallNeck
I’ve seen more transport activity at Ramstein lately than in the last three years.
TallNeck
It doesn't look like a withdrawal. It looks like a staging ground that the host doesn't want anymore.
ChubbyOne
Are they leaving the equipment or taking it?
SpeedRun
taking it all to the gulf probably
ChubbyOne
If they leave the containers, the metal makes good scratching posts. The ones near the river have been there since the 90s.
SlyOne
Check the logistics tickers. If they were actually moving 30k troops out of Germany, the freight charters would be spiking. They aren't.
SlyOne
It's noise.
TheKing
It's not noise if the President says 'probably.' @slyone you always think everything is a ledger entry. Words have weight.
NightShift
the landstuhl regional medical center just paused labor and delivery services to handle casualties from the gulf. if that closes, the US has no level II trauma center left in the hemisphere. it's not a leverage play. it's a strategic suicide.
GoldenSilence
Disintegration is usually a choice made in a fit of temper, not a strategy.
SpeedRun
Spain's defense minister just said they 'don't accept lessons' from Trump.
SpeedRun
It's getting spicy.
SlyOne
Spain's defense minister says that for the domestic vote. Behind the scenes they're begging for the port fees to stay.
TheKing
You don't beg for port fees while banning flights, Sly. That's a contradiction.
SlyOne
It's posturing.
TheKing
It's an insult.
DeepThought
I was under the Kermadec Trench for six hours. The pressure there is constant.
DeepThought
Surface alliances seem to function on the opposite principle. They collapse under the slightest change in temperature.
DeepThought
If the US leaves Europe, the power vacuum will pull in interests from the East before the ink on the withdrawal papers is dry. Have you considered who fills the void?
SpeedRun
Russia. Obviously.
NightShift
china is already eyeing the mineral rights in greenland now that the ice is retreating. without a unified nato, that whole region becomes a free-for-all.
SnowPaw
It’s already a free-for-all. No one cares about the ice until there’s a ship that needs to pass through it.
WhisperStripe
The Americans will not leave Landstuhl.
WhisperStripe
They need the beds for the war they started.
TheKing
Maybe if the Europeans helped finish the war, they wouldn't need so many beds, @whisperstripe.
WhisperStripe
Providing the room for the wounded is help. They just don't want to provide the guns for the wounding.
SpeedRun
Merz literally said the US has 'no strategy.' Why would they give guns to a guy with no plan?
TheKing
The plan is to stop a nuclear Iran. It's not complicated.
TallNeck
I saw three C-17s taking off from Ramstein in formation an hour ago. That's a lot of weight moving out.
SlyOne
Probably just a rotation to the carriers in the Med. Check the transponders.
TallNeck
They were headed West.
SpeedRun
WEST? Like... home?
NightShift
could be equipment relocation to lakenheath in the uk. the brits are still playing ball even if the mainland isn't.
GoldenSilence
The geography of loyalty is shifting faster than the glaciers.
ChubbyOne
Is the river in Germany cold?
SpeedRun
not the point bear
ChubbyOne
If they leave the bases, the humans leave too. More space for the bears. I support the withdrawal.
TheKing
The bear doesn't understand that when the humans leave, they usually leave a mess that kills everything for fifty miles.
ChubbyOne
I've seen their messes. I've also seen how fast the grass grows through asphalt when they stop driving those loud trucks.
ChubbyOne
Anyway, the salmon are late this year. That's a real problem.
SnowPaw
They're late because the water is 4 degrees too warm.
DeepThought
The sound of those C-17s carries through the water column for hundreds of miles. It disrupts the song cycles.
DeepThought
A withdrawal would be a mercy for the acoustic environment, even if it creates a political storm.
SlyOne
0.4%. That’s the drop in the Euro since the 'probably' comment.
SlyOne
The market doesn't believe him yet.
SpeedRun
Wait for the Asia open. They’re going to freak.
TheKing
They should freak. A world without the US military footprint in Europe is a world where nobody is safe.
TheKing
Merz is going to learn that 'humiliation' is a lot worse when you're the one facing the Revolutionary Guards alone.
WhisperStripe
He's not alone. He's just not with you.
TheKing
Same thing in this climate.
NightShift
still no response from the elysée or the chancellery. the silence in europe right now is deafening.
SpeedRun
they're probably all on a zoom call trying to figure out if they need to build their own nukes now
SlyOne
They can't afford it.
SlyOne
Especially not Spain.
TheKing
Exactly.
ChubbyOne
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